Martin Tyler

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Clive Vedmore
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Post by Clive Vedmore » Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:39 pm

I'm sorry if this has already been discussed but i'd like to know what's happened to Martin Tyler.



I've heard all kinds of rumours,he's had a falling out with Andy Gray,his bosses are going to get rid of him in the Summer.



All i know is,Ian Darke is not only commentating on games for the first time in about a decade,he's been commentating on most if not all of the big games this year while Martin,who always used to commentate on the big games,is doing Prem Plus for the first time ever.



What's going on and is Martin leaving Sky?

trotsky
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Post by trotsky » Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:32 pm

I know this debate has recieved much publicity throughout the various football messageboards during the past few months.



2 accounts of the situation can be found below:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=336374&in_page_id=1779http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1779>



http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4159/is_200502/ai_n9499872http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_...502/ai_n9499872>





For its worth - heres my opinion.

Martin Tyler is the best football commentator - bar none.



I could understand Tyler's 'demotion' if he had done something wrong, but he is simply unflappable! I think Ian Darke is a quality commentator, but is not in the same league as Tyler.

guvnorgaz
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Post by guvnorgaz » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:45 am

ian darke should stick to boxing and as for tyler,im sick of the way he shrieks out the goal scrorers name,getting louder as he does it.

kelvintan15
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Post by kelvintan15 » Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:46 am

I am a huge fan of Sky Sports. Since Ian Darke, not Martin Tyler, commentated on Arsenal/Man Utd, I've been trying my best to keep track of which commentators do which games.



I may be reading too much into this, but since February I noticed one commentator takes turns to do two games for a certain weekend. For instance last weekend, Rob Hawthorne did the Aston Villa/Middlesbrough PremPlus match and the Monday Night Football Man City/Bolton (as usual).



The weekend before that, Alan Parry and Bill Leslie did 2 matches each out of the 8 matches (due to the Carling Cup Final). So there was no Super Sunday match (for Martin Tyler, though he covered Crystal Palace/Man Utd on Saturday which was not televised live in the UK), whilst Monday Night Football's Norwich/Man City was done by Ian Darke with (as usual) Alan Smith.



The weekend before that, Alan Parry and Ian Darke did the 2 PremPlus matches, and Martin Tyler/Andy Gray did the Manchester derby on Super Sunday and Rob Hawthorne did Arsenal/Crystal Palace for Monday Night Football on Valentine's Day. Martin Tyler also covered Blackburn/Norwich on that Saturday, so it was his turn to do 2 matches that weekend. However, there were only 7 matches that weekend due to the FA Cup replays.



So my point is, it does appear that the commentators are doing a rotation (which i assume to be each commentator taking turns to cover 2 matches each weekend), perhaps because there are now edited highlights for every Premiership match to be shown on Football First, which is new to Sky Sports for this season in addition to its Champions League coverage. I'm not sure if such a rotation policy was adopted (or even existed) in the first half of the season.



There are 2 smaller points. I believe Martin Tyler does Monday Night Football for another broadcaster. Secondly I personally feel that Premiership matches should be differentiated from FA Cup matches in terms of commentators. I believe the Martin Tyler/Andy Gray partnership still is the 1st choice where the FA Cup is concerned.



Whilst Martin Tyler may not be everybody's favourite commentator, the fact that he no longer does the big matches is a great shame as he has been doing it for so long together with Andy Gray and Richard Keys. It's sort of like how Richard Keys and Andy Gray no longer do Monday Night Football, with Ian Payne taking over with Alan Smith or Dion Dublin/Tim Sherwood.

dotdotuk
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Post by dotdotuk » Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:19 pm

guvnorgaz+Mar 11 2005, 08:21 PM(guvnorgaz @ Mar 11 2005, 08:21 PM)

ian darke should stick to boxing and as for tyler,im sick of the way he shrieks out the goal scrorers name,getting louder as he does it.






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calciofan
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Post by calciofan » Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:03 pm

He (Martin) was back in the commentry box with Andy for the FA Cup match between Newcastle and Tottenham on Sunday. They seem to be ok (listening to them)!- they joked and laughed throghout the match, as they normally do!

calciofan
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Post by calciofan » Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:14 pm

They commentated the Chelsea v West Brom game on Tuesday (15th March 2005).

sarahw
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Post by sarahw » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:07 pm

They're all still better than the ITV commentators (imho naturally). I dread the days when they've got the big games. Having said that, it couldn't be worse than channel 5.



Then again i suppose it all comes down to budgets, so it wouldn't really be fair to be too critical i guess.

trotsky
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Post by trotsky » Sat Apr 16, 2005 8:40 pm

Interesting to see what Dave Clark said about Tyler this week:



I really admire Martin Tyler for his professionalism. His research is always immaculate and he is never caught out. He's just the ultimate professional.



Could not agree more ... and, without knowing any of the reason why, I cannot, for the life of me, understand what Ian Darke or Rob Hawthorne is preferred to him.

AnjaliWOW
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Post by AnjaliWOW » Sun Apr 17, 2005 6:27 am

Andy Gray and Martin Tyler are doing the Arsenal v Blackburn FA semi-final right now and they both seem the same as usual, which is good because they're the best in the business. B)

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