James Rubin - World News Tonight

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HBox
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Post by HBox » Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:58 pm

I don't think it really matters which country they originate from, as ong as they can speak fluently.

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Post by Mr Byrne » Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:32 pm

think in Ireland we could probably name the viewers....Mr O'Toole in Galway, Mrs Flynn in Kilkenny and the Gilhooley Family in Dublin. ...It would probably be better if Sky just sent them a tape of the show. That's not very nice. Eitherway, you never included me in those ratings.



I think in all fairness, you should really take on board this part of the article, which you innocently forgot to highlight:



Overall, the pattern was the same as before the re-launch, with Sky beating News 24 in the morning, then the BBC's station pulling away in the afternoon.and...



News 24 is also ahead in the hour from 7pm, when the BBC channel's News 24 Tonight show is up against The Sky Report with Julie Etchingham - another new show.



So far this week, News 24 Tonight is averaging 80,250 viewers, while The Sky Report is on 32,250.

As for British presenters on American TV, isn't there an ex sky correspondent on Fox - James Cookson, is it?



And we even have a man flying the Irish flag on American TV. I've seen an episode of the O'Reilly Factor, in which Bill O'Reilly classified himself as Irish. (And there's Conan O'Brien though, he's not a News Presenter, that I know of.)

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Post by daved2424 » Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:58 am

Hullo+Oct 29 2005, 08:45 PM(Hullo @ Oct 29 2005, 08:45 PM)

no more than Eamonn Holmes is Irish centred





He's British.

HBox
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Post by HBox » Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:23 pm

daved2424+Oct 30 2005, 01:28 AM(daved2424 @ Oct 30 2005, 01:28 AM)

Hullo+Oct 29 2005, 08:45 PM(Hullo @ Oct 29 2005, 08:45 PM)

no more than Eamonn Holmes is Irish centred





He's British.





More specifically Northern Irish, still part of the UK.

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Post by Mr Byrne » Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:48 pm

More specifically Northern Irish, still part of the UK. Eamon Holmes has the right to classify himself as either British or Irish, I'm sure he's enetitled to an Irish passport. But thats neither here nor there and I don't really care, but interestinly, on a special report for Sky News Ireland (which featured an interview with former President Bill Clinton), Sky's US Correspondent Ian Woods classified himself as being Irish, and he's from Belfast if I'm not mistaken.



Getting back to the topic:



Sky could do a programme called "An American View" in which a couple of prominent Americans comment on British and World news from a US perspective and give us a bit of detailed insight into the odd American story (note that CBS News is only shown in anti-social hours). Nothing wrong with thatBasically you're backing up my theory that you don't like World Ness Tonight because its presented by an American?

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Post by Hullo » Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:54 pm

Sorry to anyone offended about Eamonn Holmes : I know very little about him and should have researched the point before making it.



No, Mr Byrne, I don't agree with you at all. I don't criticise World News because it's presented by an American. I object to James Rubin being given the gig because he's awful. World News can easily be anchored by a non-Brit (although the current Sky stable has quite a few candidates). But not James Rubin. Period.

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Post by fusionlad » Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:58 pm



As for British presenters on American TV, isn't there an ex sky correspondent on Fox - James Cookson, is it?

and Fox have Jonathan Hunt...

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Post by Steven » Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:13 pm

Mr Byrne+Oct 30 2005, 12:15 PM(Mr Byrne @ Oct 30 2005, 12:15 PM)

Eamon Holmes has the right to classify himself as either British or Irish, I'm sure he's enetitled to an Irish passport.







On the basis that he was born in Northern Ireland then he is NOT entitled to an Irish passport.

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Post by gsf » Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:17 pm

Steven+Oct 30 2005, 02:40 PM(Steven @ Oct 30 2005, 02:40 PM)

Mr Byrne+Oct 30 2005, 12:15 PM(Mr Byrne @ Oct 30 2005, 12:15 PM)

Eamon Holmes has the right to classify himself as either British or Irish, I'm sure he's enetitled to an Irish passport.







On the basis that he was born in Northern Ireland then he is NOT entitled to an Irish passport.





Actually he is entitled to apply for an Irish passport IF HE WISHED TO DO SO.

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Post by xxx » Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:19 pm

Does it really matter, Eamonn is a great presenter, James is not!

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Post by daved2424 » Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:33 pm

gsf+Oct 30 2005, 04:34 PM(gsf @ Oct 30 2005, 04:34 PM)

Steven+Oct 30 2005, 02:40 PM(Steven @ Oct 30 2005, 02:40 PM)

Mr Byrne+Oct 30 2005, 12:15 PM(Mr Byrne @ Oct 30 2005, 12:15 PM)

Eamon Holmes has the right to classify himself as either British or Irish, I'm sure he's enetitled to an Irish passport.







On the basis that he was born in Northern Ireland then he is NOT entitled to an Irish passport.





Actually he is entitled to apply for an Irish passport IF HE WISHED TO DO SO.





That isn't what he said.



And no it doesn't matter.

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Post by dazzy34 » Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:08 pm

errrr i thought Ian Woods was born and bred in coventry?

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Post by dazzy34 » Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:32 am

Just watched James for the first time now, he talks very slow and comes accross as a bit.... errrr.... dim, im sure he is highly competent.

as an expat.....i enjoy having a brit present the news (i do so miss the accent)

i dont enjoy James.

Is it me or does he sound like Jack Nickolson?.......i keep waiting for him to cry out at any time "herrrrrreees Johnnnnny"



He looks a bit out of his depth IMO.

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Post by willdem » Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:33 am

C'mon guys. I'm not interested in the way someone speaks, or if they are slightly nervous, whatever. The main point is that this man has a vast amount of knowledge, has an excellent mind, and has many years of experience in government. I watched so many Sky interviews in the past (with Government members from all of the world), but none of them were as decisive, and to the point as were the ones I have seen by James Rubin. If I'm not mistaken, a newscasters job is to report the truth, and if anyone can get at the truth, it's James.

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Post by HBox » Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:19 am

willdem+Oct 31 2005, 09:30 PM(willdem @ Oct 31 2005, 09:30 PM)

C'mon guys. I'm not interested in the way someone speaks, or if they are slightly nervous, whatever. The main point is that this man has a vast amount of knowledge, has an excellent mind, and has many years of experience in government. I watched so many Sky interviews in the past (with Government members from all of the world), but none of them were as decisive, and to the point as were the ones I have seen by James Rubin. If I'm not mistaken, a newscasters job is to report the truth, and if anyone can get at the truth, it's James.





A valid point. I just wish he was more fluent, though he has marginally improved over the week.

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Post by gsf » Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:51 pm

He's seems to be improving a bit. I think the problem is not his accent, but his slow delivery.



He seems to pause mid-sentence. You can almost hear the cogs on that super brain turning while you wait for him to finish.

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Post by txwharfrat » Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:43 pm

willdem+Oct 31 2005, 09:30 PM(willdem @ Oct 31 2005, 09:30 PM)

C'mon guys. I'm not interested in the way someone speaks, or if they are slightly nervous, whatever. The main point is that this man has a vast amount of knowledge, has an excellent mind, and has many years of experience in government. I watched so many Sky interviews in the past (with Government members from all of the world), but none of them were as decisive, and to the point as were the ones I have seen by James Rubin. If I'm not mistaken, a newscasters job is to report the truth, and if anyone can get at the truth, it's James.





that may be the case, but if somebody is clearly struggling to present, as he is, it becomes uncomfortable for the viewer to watch.

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Post by jk80 » Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:24 pm

I think Rubin is excellent and really knows his stuff. You can put too much emphasis on the ability to read an autocue. Adam Boulton isn't very comfortable but he's the jewel in the crown as far as quality in-depth reporting goes at Sky.



I've got my doubts about Holmes though. Some of his quips seem painful and I've noticed Lorna Dunkley try to move things on quickly when he's said something silly.

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Post by cloud 999 » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:00 pm

Hey, what about Anjali Rao doing the world news programme! On the night shift the other night she did the world news programme but at 5 in the morning! It was basically exactly the same as the previous nights world news programme! And she was fantastic!



While im on the subject why is sky news wasting her talents on the night shift! She is one of their best presenters (and thats not just because of how attractive she is)!!

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Post by anna26 » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:55 pm

She may have been filling in for someone

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Post by sky_news_nut » Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:00 pm

James Rubin - In a word - awful.



The previews made him look so good about him wanting to bring "behind the scenes analysis".



The bottom line is, he is just too boring.



Boring voice, never shows any sort of expression or emotion, he doesn't even look at ease with himself as he's sitting there.



Sky have made a mistake with this guy. They cant just turn anyone into a presenter!

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Post by guvnorgaz » Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:03 pm

Awfl doesnt do him justice! Its got to be the worst hours tv ever.Sky has Anjali on night shift,Emma on weekends,Viv has gone and Paula and we get stuck with this numpty

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Post by dazzy34 » Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:34 pm

hes just too awful to watch, i would rather have littlejohn doing world news tonight than this boring dithering newsreader.

on the whole the revamp has been a success, IMO........get rid of james and give steve dixon the slot.

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Post by mainhill » Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:39 pm

Well, may be I'm the only one, but I find World News Tonight the most interesting new show on Sky, which helps me a lot in my profession (specialist in international law). Comments and discussions by Rubin are really professional. May be his TV appearance is not perfect, but he is very good as analist.

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Post by sky.dub » Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:17 am

mainhill+Nov 25 2005, 04:11 AM(mainhill @ Nov 25 2005, 04:11 AM)

Well, may be I'm the only one, but I find World News Tonight the most interesting new show on Sky, which helps me a lot in my profession (specialist in international law). Comments and discussions by Rubin are really professional. May be his TV appearance is not perfect, but he is very good as analist. That is perhaps the problem, he is better at being a guest analysis person, rather than the question maker.

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